The full Signal chat between Trump administration officials discussing bombing Yemen revealed that top US officials celebrated an airstrike that flattened a residential building, which likely killed many civilians.
Jeffrey Goldberg, editor-in-chief of The Atlantic, was included in the chat, apparently by accident, and published its full contents on Wednesday after Trump administration officials insisted it didn’t contain classified information. But the chat did include details about when the strikes on Yemen would start on March 15.
After the US bombings started, US National Security Advisor Mike Waltz, who added Goldberg to the chat, said one of the strikes targeted a “top missile guy” for the Houthis after he entered a building where his girlfriend lived.
“The first target – their top missile guy – we had positive ID of him walking into his girlfriend’s building, and it’s now collapsed,” Waltz said.
Vice President JD Vance, who previously warned against bombing Yemen in the chat, replied to Waltz by saying, “Excellent.”
Other administration officials celebrated the destruction of the residential building, including Secretary of State Marco Rubio, White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles, Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller, US Middle Envoy Steve Witkoff, and Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard.
Gabbard previously opposed US intervention against the Houthis in Yemen, which she called “genocidal” during President Trump’s first term in office. But she has supported the new bombing campaign in Yemen, which hasn’t been authorized by Congress, and replied to the news of the residential building being hit by saying, “Great works and effects!”
The Trump administration’s bombing campaign against Yemen has had a heavy civilian toll. The Yemen Data Project said in a report on Tuesday that at least 25 civilians were killed in just the first week, more than were killed by US-UK strikes on Yemen from January 2024 to 2025 under the Biden administration.
The US launched the bombing campaign after the Houthis, officially known as Ansar Allah, announced they would reimpose a blockade on Israeli shipping in response to Israel violating the Gaza ceasefire by cutting off the entry of aid and all other goods into Gaza. The Houthis had ceased their attacks on Israel and shipping in the region when the Gaza truce went into effect on January 19 but warned they would resume if Israel violated the deal.
In his argument against bombing Yemen in the Signal chat, Vance framed his opposition as related to Europe, which is far more reliant on Red Sea shipping than the US. “3 percent of US trade runs through the suez. 40 percent of European trade does. There is a real risk that the public doesn’t understand this or why it’s necessary. The strongest reason to do this is, as POTUS said, to send a message,” Vance said.
Vance ultimately agreed to go along with the bombing campaign and said in the chat that he would pray for its success as it started. Since the US airstrikes on Yemen started on March 15, the region has exploded. Israel restarted its genocidal war in Gaza a few days later, and the Houthis began targeting US warships and firing missiles at Israel.
The Israeli news site Ynet reported that the US has told Israel not to worry about retaliating against the Houthis for their recent missile attacks, saying US forces will handle it.
1. The "top missile guy" was using his girlfriend as a human shield so it's his fault.
2. The girlfriend knew he was a terrorist so it's her fault.
3. The other people in the building knew the "top missile guy" was a terrorist so it's their fault.
4. They were ALL antisemites.
5. Iran.
Well they ae getting away with it.
Have you seen any opposition from anywhere other than Jasmine Crocket making a fool of herself, AOC practicing her acting skill with Bernie and Schumer saying he will not resign?
The strike killed the wrong guy… so it's his girlfriend's fault…!
Most likely there was no guy, he didn't even have a name and he was invisible.
Nice emojis, Waltz, you dork.
"The first target – their top missile guy – we had positive ID of him walking into his girlfriend’s building, and it’s now collapsed,” Waltz said."
Such an idiotic statement.
this is how 4 yr olds have fun (at others' expence) in the sand pit. 'har har, look at me doing something naughty!'
Sounds like he made it all up, not one word is true? Any child could make that up playing any sand box game.
Predictably, this is how genocide supporting war criminals can be expected to behave. Ethic-less people are incapable of decency and feel no shame.
the term 'psychopaths' comes to mind
and is entirely appropriate and accurate!
The ID came after the call for the bombing. There is no way to have known he would be walking into the building (if in fact he ever did).
Did he even exist or is it just another made up thing, even the name is missing.
Whether this was a breach or orchestrated, it is a damning indictment of the American empire. My question to everyone is to what extent should Americans living in a "democracy" be held responsible for these crimes? If the ME explodes and our boys are killed there, what should our response be as responsible Americans?
@gstorm:disqus@cjgeek:disqus@rrschoettker:disqus@warsrus:disqus@disqus_9hDrG0FuMO:disqus@existentialdread:disqus@disqus_jzsK7ljwo3:disqus@unclesapien:disqus@disqus_ilrxJSc5KX:disqus
100%
MSM stories re-emphasize the same old demonizing stories: referendums in the oblasts were held at the end of a gun; thousands of Ukraine children were kidnapped; Putin is seeking expansion; it was the Russians who immediately broke the infrastructure ceasefire . . . Waltz on "the evil enemy" sounds like he's reciting holy script memorized at fourteen years old. All this–plus his duplicity–does not bode well for Trump's credibility. Plus Vance let out a terrible word: "mistake."
Yes, the officials ae cheering it on adn so do the sheep.
What is so disgusting is the fact taht nothing changes. Teh US and Israel are now in full control of everything in the Middle East it appears. I still hope I am wrong – but other than people writing about it nothing else is happening other than people being killed.
Now they say Palestinians are uprising all over against Hamas. Is that true or instigated with some being bought off with lots of money?
I can't imagine how desperate life is getting in Gaza as a result of the Israeli genocide. I think what we are seeing is people demonstrating against war and starvation. Hamas is the only force they have for defense ( and Ansar Allah.)
Hamas isn’t there for their defense.
Hamas is there to lord it over them, with Israeli assistance as required.
Hamas are the children of Gaza Palestinian parents.
We never see any photos, video footage of Hamas dead or alive, no family members or friends mourning them, they are like invisible spirits.
On the WB the PA works with the Israelis, there is no Hamas to blame.
Yes, like most authoritarian death cults, Hamas abuses "its own people" and adds insult to injury by doing it in their name.
Hamas conducted the October 7 attack because its violent suppressions of Palestinian street protests against it and its execution of its Palestinian opponents as "Israeli spies" hadn't worked — it was on its way out and needed Israel's help to put down the resistance to its rule.
Hamas won the elections, if there were demonstrations against Hamas you can bet the Israeli Mossad funded them, the CIA would help if help was needed. I know of Palestinian demonstrations against the brutal, illegal Zionist occupiers. ON the WB Hamas gained popularity not the PA and Abbas.
Hamas won one election. In 2006. Since which it has refused to allow elections.
It’s Hamas, not Hamas’s opponents, who have periodically received Israeli funding to keep Palestinians down and powerless. And when funding wasn’t enough, Hamas called the IDF in to assist them on October 7, 2023.
Yes Netanyahu did fund the Hamas election, his goal was to divide and conquer, it did not turn out as he expected, Hamas won NOT the PLO. And immediately they sanctioned the Palestinians in Gaza and used the PLO and Abbas to control resistance on the WB, the PLO made the settlements on the WB possible, Abbas is the traitor of the Palestinian people, not Hamas. It is fighting, ready to die for human rights for all Palestinians.
What is it the Israelis fight for?
They destroy and leave no stone sitting on another stone. The annihilation of Gaza and the WB is their VICTORY, right?
How insane the Israelis are.
I hate to say it, but you post is BS.
“Hamas called the IDF in to assist them on October 7, 2023” that is a new one, where did you get that information?
Nothing new about it. I pointed it out on October 8, 2023, and have been pointing it out since.
Hamas was getting its ass kicked by the Palestinian people. Violently suppressing protests hadn’t worked. Executing dissidents hadn’t worked. Hamas was on its way out.
So it launched an attack on Israel for the sole and express purpose of getting Israel to do its killing of Palestinians for it, to be “worse cop” to its “bad cop” and let it go back to pretending it gave a tinker’s dam about Palestinian lives.
So you say, but where is your evidence to back it up? You made it up, it is a lie. There is nothing that supports you, even the Israelis had to admit their soldiers were instructed to use the Hannibal rule.
What motivates you to repeat that lie or did you make it up?
What on earth does the “Hannibal Directive” have to do with Hamas’s obvious reason for launching an attack when they did? They’d been trying and failing to suppress Palestinians street protests against their rule for two months. The jig was up. The only thing that could save their asses was to bring in an external enemy who was worse than them. And now that the Palestinians are getting even a little bit of respite, however slight, the protests are beginning again.
Thomas, how do you know it is a death cult? That makes no sense. Hamas are fighting for their right to live full lives in freedom and human rights and dignity. The right to lead a normal life for them and their families like you and I do.
The Israeli illegal occupation is outstandingly brutal, even sadistic, genocide with bombs, starvation, lack of food and water, shelter, health care and freedom. To live as they do to get out of the brutal prison is worth to die for.
The Hamas fight against a living that is worse than death. They have nothing to loose other than miserable lives without basic human rights, that includes life on the WB. They do not fight for material gains like other people's land and natural resources and more wealth. They fight and give their lives for a better life for their children, their future generations.
Israelis get no help from Hamas. Hamas would not be human if they didn't hate the Israelis. We are watching empirical genocide in real time. And yes we will be accountable, many voted and many still support the ruling criminal elite of mad- men and mad- women.
Hamas is fighting for its hold on power. Nothing more, nothing less.
The difference between us is that I oppose authoritarian death cults, where you choose ones to like and surround with fantasies that they aren’t death cults.
I deal with the empirical evidence, nothing more and nothing less. Cults are like religion, you believe whatever suits you.
I could call our extreme militarism an authoritarian death cult, but the empirical truth is that militarism and war are big profitable business, not some inexplicable cult. The civilians killed in action are not members of death cults, the women, men, and children are the victims of limitless materialistic greed. The children torn to shreds and dead or lost limbs and suffered amputations without anesthetics, are they members of a death cult? The only people you can accuse of authoritarianism and death cults are the once who organize the slaughter and make the huge profits.
Yes, you “deal with” the empirical evidence by ignoring it and just making up whatever you want to believe.
Your reply describes exactly what you just did,. You can't make a rational argument to prove me wrong.
Maybe you can define the death cult, what are the signs of a death cult, could you do that?
Prove it, surely you have evidence?
You make statements, allegations, as if it is the gospel truth because you say so.
Yes, I have evidence.
I’ve provided evidence before… and your response when I do is always to make it clear that you don’t care about evidence and only ask for it before announcing that you’re still going to believe whatever you want to believe because it’s what you’ve decided you want to believe.
I am not going to get in this conversation other than to say @knappster:disqus is objectively wrong about Hamas for the most part. To comport with his worldview he knows enough to dismiss Hamas as negative overall, but he doesn't know enough to challenge what he knows. I am biased but I know enough to know that Hamas is not a death cult. If anyone would objectively take the time to look into this matter either by reading the following book or watching particularly good lectures by academics that I can point you to (since many may not have the time to order and read), one will find an objective reality that goes against traditional western bias of Islamic movements. Just look what people of substance say about understanding the movement and why its important.
Understanding Hamas
And Why That Matters
HELENA COBBAN and RAMI G. KHOURI
With Contributions by
PAOLA CARIDI, JEROEN GUNNING, KHALED HROUB, MOUIN RABBANI and AZZAM TAMIMI
Both accessible and authoritative, this book provides much-needed insight into a widely misunderstood movement whose involvement in a just resolution of the Israel/Palestine conflict will be critical.
“An accessible and thorough primer grounded in genuine expertise on the history of Palestinian resistance.”
— Max Blumenthal
“Truly important … should be read by everyone seriously interested in understanding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.”
—John J. Mearsheimer
“I couldn’t put it down and highly recommend it to anyone concerned about the plight of the Palestinian people.”
—Medea Benjamin
“In a world of information warfare, in which little is true and every slur is plausible, reliable access to facts is invaluable … Understanding Hamas tells it like it is.”
—Amb. Chas W. Freeman, Jr.
“Vital and timely … No one can deal with the Palestinian Question, or with Gaza, without understanding, and coming to terms with Hamas.”
—Jonathan Kuttab
@cloudchopper @nonamesosueme
Hamas is an authoritarian death cult in the same way that the Israeli regime, US regime, Russian regime, Ukrainian regime, etc. are authoritarian death cults.
And they are. But if you’d prefer a different representation of what they are and what they do, I suppose “ranchers” would do. They keep people as livestock, shearing and gathering eggs from some, slaughtering others, as needed to increase their power and wealth. That’s the purpose and function of any state.
Said like a true anarchist. That's why you liked the beduins. They have aspects of social anarchy which is laudable. Its a great thing that many of them accepted Islam all over the middle east, Africa and Asia.
I too am an absolutist, however, my assessment of non Muslims and non Islamic governance centers around justice. A just non Muslim ruler is better for humanity than an oppressive Muslim one. To be unable to see any good in Hamas because they are authoritarian is like saying I don't like human beings because they are capable of evil or harm.
Your assessment of Hamas amounts to polemical wit. Regardless, you represent no enmity to Palestinian self determination.
When and where did I say I am unable to see any good in Hamas?
No government can govern without some authority, elections authorize the government to act in the best interests of the people. The abuse of that authority justifies impeachment.
You are so sure you are right, it is not even debatable? What makes you so sure?
It is your opinion, or is it your religion or not?
Of course it’s debatable. Everything is debatable … but you stomping your foot and saying that X is true or false because you really, really, really, REALLY want X to be true or false is not debate.
More allegations from you.
Your reply is much appreciated. There is much information out there, but one has only so much time.
I like and trust book discussions by people like Chris Hedges, it is the next best thing to reading the whole book.
Freedom of speech is really in trouble, Consortium News disappeared without any explanation too. The same is true in all western democracies, I never thought it possible, but here we are.
Then you must have seen this.
Yes, I forgot but did not forget what was said. They are people with character, honor and knowledge.
Who are the journalists reporting from Gaza, IDF types, staged official Photos? Israelis must have missed the opportunity to bomb the demonstrators.
That's why its suspicious and going on with Israelia pproval as a way to weaken Hamas and foment opposition against them so the PA can come in on the back of Israeli tanks.
The CIA people are professionals in organizing demonstrations, sanctions are part of destabilizing societies and instigate regime change. As far as I know all regime changes replaced left leaning mostly elected governments with fascists, Iraq and Libya were two exceptions. They failed in Cuba, Venezuela, and Nicaragua and big time in Russia. Putin is still in office and Biden lost big time. The hubris to think he could remove the popular president of a nuclear superpower like Russia shows Biden’s insane megalomania, the Trump tariff obsession is the same megalomaniac insanity.
It's just a continuing of the genocidal campaign by other means. The Israelis couldn't succeed in the war aims or the ethnic cleansing, and they broke the ceasefire. Now they are using their Arab proxies to foment dissent in the Strip to weaken the resistance. SA and UAE are pouring money into the PA coffers so they can collaborate for the day after.
I have immense gratitude for Dave and the other writers here for pointing out the important substantive issues (with it: the deception, duplicitousness and deflections), instead of the insane amount of corporate media attention focused on the “leak” without content and partisan infighting.
Thank you.
I still haven't read a reason why the Houthis are doing what they are doing on our MSM. Just NEVER mentioned. And, of course, the Houthis are "terrorists" and they are "Iran backed". Makes your head damn near explode.
That’s all the media says. Like they woke up one morning with nothing better to do than target ships, no reason, just terrorists enjoying terrorism, a happy hobby.
How f-cking stupid are people who buy this?
How f'ing depraved is 👊🇺🇸🔥’ing the murder of innocent civilians? Time out or firing squad?
I like to read it as Waltz threatening to punch JD Vance (Vance Refrigeration) if the VP doesn't burn an American flag.
Guillotine'm.
I would have to assume the History classes in high schools, colleges and universities sit empty semester after semester, with apparently almost nobody interested in historical context, motivations, or critical analysis of cause-and-effect.
It's like the MSM decided to cut their articles and news briefs down to fit more advertising in, and figured the two paragraphs or two minutes that fill in the back-story were perfect to cut.
At all universities the Humanities are only vestigial. You have to go to a small liberal arts school to get an education -history, lit, phil, and which deficiency points the primordial moral of Western decadence.
A career student friend of mine strongly advocates for the post-secondary system that requires a number of course credits in unrelated disciplines to achieve a degree, for creating “Well-Rounded Students”.
As a technical college grad then operating school grad myself, I felt the system a waste of money (WITAS does an Aerospace Engineer need of two 100-level English Lit courses for 6 credits and $3000 ???) and just a way for universities to make extra bank off peripherals.
I see his perspective; but I am also a pragmatist and would rather spend the $6000 for the 2-year set program I did that got me a career at 21 years old, than $25,000 for a generic B.Sc that might see me in a sea of likewise (un)qualified grads at 24 years old.
(Tuition estimates based on circa 1997 estimates; the last year for which I had data)
I agree the costs are prohibitive. But my point was basically that a culture that omits to pass on generationally its Tradition (Socrates to Stravinsky) has lost its reason for being and sunk into an hedonic nihilism.
“They were Nazis, Dude ?”
“No Donnie, they just kept saying they believed in nothing.”
Sorry; always compelled to paraphrase The Big Lebowski.
Thanks Uncle, … it kinda holds the room together.
Hahahaha, aww yeah !!
“The Houthis are terrorists” is advertising.
Selling you a story. ~Edward Bernays.
"Propaganda is the executive arm of the invisible government." -Edward Bernays, 1928
… and illegal … without a declaration of war.
Trump does not want war declared – he is the "peace president". He just gives orders to kill, calling it peace through strength.
Most do, all over the world, for thousands of years. Wanna know why?
Because they Want to, its easier that way, and because Most would rather slink inside into safety within the crowd than stand out. Its actually quite logical but i find rather disgusting…
In the chat Hegseth acknowledges the failure of the media regarding the Houthi, their motivations, methods and objectives, in the most cynical way possible, addressing Vance's point of a lack of American interest in attacking the Houthi.
Because managing public opinion is a priority. Informing the public isn't.
He tried to make it about protecting Europe, which is bullshit.
Yes, but Europe can be counted on to be too stupid to understand anything. If they pay for letting their energy infrastructure be blown up, they pay for whatever. They will "remunerate" Trump and then they are going to make a plan to rob the citizens of Europe of their life savings to buy their own navy to attack Yemen.
The European ruling class is as corrupt as is our ruling class, they are more evil than stupid.
It is shaping up as class warfare here and there. What is in it for the ruling class of oligarchs and what for the people?
You were expecting to hear the truth on Fake News?
No. I was pointing that out for effect.
https://open.substack.com/pub/anncoulter/p/hey-at-least-we-bombed-somebody?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Quite obviously it's not the government's plan to "Make the Middle East Great Again" but to "Make the Middle East Greater Israel"
This "government's plan" is irrelevant given our vaulted government, regardless party, hasn't had a successful war "plan" since WW2. And this cretinous clown-car is no better.
A paddy wagon is really needed for the mad clowns.
Better a firing squad. On second thought – better still a one-way ticket to Gaza, or Sanaa:)
👊🇺🇸🔥 more brown collateral damage.
Note also the state of Vance’s Christianity. He prayed for the success of a massacre of civilians.
"We came ,we saw. He died" H. Clinton on learning the news of Omar Gaddafii getting murdered. It doesnt matter if its a 'liberal' democrat or a 'conservative' republican, its the same sadistic,we can do what we want bullshit.. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/26d01db6a58cc6d9a94847cf3797e1845a4fb225ca0bb5ae16636fc4c4f543a0.jpg
Why do we have to live Dr. Strangelove over and over and over again Neo?
Typical doctored American propaganda…!
Yay. Death and destruction. 👊🇺🇲🔥🧨💣💣💣💣💣💣💣⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️
Or: Death and taxes!
;-}
Celebrate all you like!… When we vote your sorry asses out of office!
Read it and weep!…!….!…
https://youtu.be/YxNio8GvwRY?si=0PEGGyadorPKK7TQ
The Houthis are more "American" than ANY American "leader"! Anyone who fights for freedom and independence would be considered "American", but this nation, with its sold-out politicians, is 180 degrees from the REAL precepts of Americanism! "Fighting terrorism" is a contradiction when it comes to the USA and Israel. Their way of "fighting terrorism" actually is a means of sowing future "terrorism" so they can "justify" the continued onslaught of human rights!
This conversation on Signal is very disappointing and sounds as if it took place in a Frat house. Waltz had better find out how he had Goldberg in his chat list, or maybe the FBI or Elon can find out, that is the real bombshell issue here. Waltz may have to go.
They are bombing civilian targets as indiscriminately as the Israelis do, they have license to kill civilians with impunity like the Israelis.
The only licence
they posses
is what the bully 'owns'
power
Which is fleeting
like youth
faux
as darkness is light
But one day
someday
soon
a human will jump
over the moon
We will then take
their power away
like dust in the wind
to disperse it
east west
north and south
forever…
soon some some humans, Trump/Musk come to mind and their gang, will jump over the moon and may they never, ever, come back.
Deportation as they do to others would be justice…
True, generous justice, but I would like to see them behind the moon and to never return, of course to see them go to hell would be nice too.
If terrorists were killed then I support the move
Psychopath
Reminds of Hillary's response to the torture death of Assad.
The obvious glee which officials have in their now official power to order people killed, including civilians, indicates a societal sickness. Nor do we have to even mention their support for Israel's actions in Gaza.
Petey takes a shot everytime a bomb drops
It was not my impression that Izraeli cuttoff of food and water stsrted “few days late, I understood that Yemen announced resumption of their Red Sea operations as s response to Israel’s stop of humanitarian aid.
l will cheer when the Yemenis defeat the US government and shames it before humanity.
Go Houthis!
LOL. The haters will never understand that supporting the Frankenstein monster is the evil, wanting its destruction is the right thing. Everyone poo-pooed Dr. Norman Finkelstein when he said long time ago that Israel was a lunatic state and needed to be stopped for its own survival. October 7th validated his words. Of course if you are a thoughtful thinking American you would want the Houthis to fend off this latest American aggression now before we send our boys to die by the thousands in a wider conflict. Who really loves good for America, us or the haters?
Cmon
come cry with me
lets whine
bide our time
while gaza starves
ah
lets instead stand up
smile at the sneer
laugh at the cackles
walk down
the end of the line
Everyone
the short
the tall
poor and proud
we can do it together
It doesnt have to be this way
hate and rage
can never conquer the day
mercy mercy mercy
next for you and me…
https://youtu.be/ajgeaOt_HTQ?si=ugQ7nigMKA-5THOr
The neocons want Pete Hegseth's scalp over Signal. Charlie Kirk explains why: https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1905301736946045197